Hello readers. This one may actually be more aggravating to some than my last. This one is about church. I don’t mind church, I really do understand the idea and believe that we really should go. It is our chance to be among people of like minds, and to be fed spiritually. But let me give you some of my experiences and then you tell me how you would feel (still going to church by the way). I grew up as a pastor’s kid. When I lived in Illinois and became a teenager, the rumors began;. This is a list of a few; I was a satanist, I was sleeping with whoever, whenever. I was a drug addict, alcoholic, smoking teenage punk, dissenter, God hater, well you get the idea. And that was before I was even 17. Also, I had a youth pastor who cheated with a teenage girl. Then we moved to Atlanta, and they got even funnier; now I was a criminal, still a man whore, drug addict, although now a peddler to other “innocent” teenagers, a violent person (that one was kind of true), a corrupter of young minds, a church destroyer, and well you get the point there. Also, I had a music and youth pastor’s wife who cheated with a teenage boy. Here is the kicker; the guy resigned, and because the family was very prominent, it got swept under the rug, and this punk actually got a free pass to continue acting like the perfect young Christian man and singing in the church, and going on to start his own church all the while never admitting fault to any part in it. Then my dad moved to Savannah, wasn’t even there (freshman in college), and here we go; Drugs, sex, violence, alcohol, and now I had AIDS (my personal favorite), I was again a Satanist, church hater, home wrecker, and even a father (really). So I wasn’t the biggest fan of church. I met my future wife on one of the very few visits I made when I was home, and then I actually started going a little. Then I became fascinated with different religions and started experimenting with eastern mysticism. That didn’t take either. During this time, I actually was doing drugs and drinking heavily, so the rumors became true. The funny thing about rumors is that often times when you hear them so much, you almost want to make them come true out of spite. Not smart, but I know I am not the first one to do that. Well, I hit rock bottom, and I decided to give church another chance. I even committed to go into full time ministry. I went to Tennessee Temple University and we were forced to go to TTU’s home church. Hated it. Not the pastor, the music. The pastor’s son swore he would help me out since I was 21 and going back to school, but he was a liar. It worked out though because he was still in the closet at the time, and I didn’t feel like being a confidant. At any rate, I got a pretty hard time from some people and because of the people I was friends with, I was even forced to sit in the front of the church like some bad child or something. I was 21. Then, I transferred to BBC. I chose to go to a church there in which not many other students went to, and it was actually really nice. Well, while I was there, I worked at a sports bar, and invited some friends to come. One, an unchurched girl, came and was so uncomfortable that she actually left crying because we got signals crossed and I was looking for her on the opposite side of the church. She wasn’t crying because she was shy. She was crying because she had been treated so rudely by the people. She sat down, hoping to see me and somebody actually asked her to move because she was in their seat. She moved and then asked where the college class was and was told that they didn’t know, they chose not to associate with “punk” college kids. Needless to say, she wasn’t impressed. I miraculously convinced her to come back and this time was very careful to protect her and she tried, but never came back. We were still friends, but she never wanted to come back. I went back to that church a total of 3 times after that. After that year, I moved back and got married. I call this “the peaceful time”. Then I graduated and got a position in a church in Denver as the youth pastor (after all that I still wanted to go into the ministry). The day I got to Denver, the pastor told me he was resigning to move to Delaware (thought there might be a chance, but still). The guy who followed him promised to give all existing staff 6 months and proceeded to give me 6 weeks. He fired me because he felt I was a threat to his ministry; my youth group was growing and seeing kids saved, and regularly ran more on Wednesday nights than the church did on Sunday nights and Wednesday nights. He felt like I was kind of a rebel and he just wanted to eliminate me. So I came back to Savannah 6 short months later, and worked to overcome the bitterness. We stayed there for about 4 years before we went to another church to teach Young Marrieds (as a lay person), and was looked down upon because it was a “Southern” Baptist church. Unfortunately my work schedule changed drastically and I was unable to stay there, so went back to my dad’s church. It never felt like home, and I began to look late in 2007. We left and came to the church we are at now, which is only 3 miles from our home and has a great pastor. But here is the latest chapter in this story. I hurt my back in September. I had surgery and was out of commission for a long time. 4 months to be exact. Well, I could actually go, but I didn’t. This may seem petty, but just read. In the time of my surgery and following, I didn’t hear from anyone in my Sunday School once. Not once. My wife got 3 emails and one ancillary call. We were active and looking for a place to serve when I got hurt, so it wasn’t like we just visited once or something. I was hurt by that, and to be honest, that is the reason why I have only been back once since September. Really like the pastor, but I don’t go to church for the pastor (sorry Dad
). I understand that a lot of people have horror stories, but even through all that, I am more than willing to give it yet another try. I have said all that to say this. Don’t EVER, EVER, EVER go to church for any other reason than to worship God. I did, and look at me. I worshipped, but I let other people get to me along the way. That is my point in all of this. People have continually let me down, and I have let it effect me this time. I am sick of “church” people. The ones who were nice to me because of my father, the ones I saw in the bars (yes, I was there, but I didn’t try to hide it) and then condemned the very things they were doing, the ones who are trying to force my newly saved best friend and his wife to be baptized for what seems to be the sole purpose of adding two more members to their church, the guys who want to be deacons so they can finally have the status they so crave, etc.. Anyway, I think I have said all I want to say, and for those of you who want to condemn, or try to convince me of the err of my ways, here is my phone number is 912-272-3145. Don’t hesitate to call. But don’t call and expect an argument. I know what the Bible says, to not forsake the assembling of ourselves; well you know what? I don’t want to assemble with anyone other than those truly committed anymore. I am tired of the fakes, the rumors, and everything else. Church is for building up and helping those with problems; not adding to them. Please do not wonder why people don’t want to go to church; we did it to ourselves. Good night.
Let’s take a church journey; be careful it is a bumpy ride
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jamie
wow this is intense! first off i want to say i’m sorry..i’m sorry that you’ve been hurt by “church” people..! I’ve been in those kind of churches, but i want to encourage you don’t give up–there is a place for you! When my husband and i got married..we went to a church..that was just ok..neither of us were growing..we were going to say we went– then we started praying about where God would have us to go…it was the first church we went to and jamie im telling you it was like nothing i’ve ever experienced…we walked in and knew this was a place where God was..we have been plugged in for 5 years now..and I’m closer to God than i’ve ever been in my Christian life..I’m challenged weekly..our church theme this year is worship..grow …serve…and to me thats what the body of Christ is about..it’s not about being fake..its about being real…
i wish you could come visit heritage…Im not gonna debate you..i just want you to know that there is a place for you and your family to worship, grow and serve too!!
and jamie..i so believe this statement..if your looking for the perfect church you wont find it..because its full of unperfect people!:)
have a good night!
Jamie-
It’s so funny how church people can be….we have not been active in church since our lovely days of Fairview….I’m sure you know why?? I always wonder what people are hiding now when I go into a church…LOL!!! Oh and by the way I love the one about a man whore…lol!! One memory sticks out in my mind..is our trip to the Holiday Inn to take the Finance guys daughter back there…LOL!!! Those were the days!!!
Hey Jamie. I can relate to everything you have said here with the exception of being a pastors kid. I did the best I could when I was very active at Bible Baptist and was still looked down on for various reasons. I too got sick of the two faced hypocritical nature of many of the people in the church.They condemned me for bartending but I would see them around town boozing it up on the weekends or even in the resturant I worked in. I watched ‘christian examples’ living two lives and everyone knew it but excused them anyway. The kicker came when I was 19. I was accused of a heinous act by a certain pastors wife. What she said I did was completely untrue but my reputation iwas ruined. I left the church, after giving her a royal cursing out, and did not return until 2006 and then sporadically. Jamie, I know where you are coming from and I had to learn the lesson that going to church for others will only make you miserable. Go for God or stay home and sleep in. If you get the time and want to hang out here’s my number 91-507-8719.
Keep your head up.
jamie, i hate that you have had to go through that…and im glad that you have grown through that and hopefully you have moved on to allow God to do a work in you and keep bitterness away…i havent been through anything like what you went through but i did grow bitter to “church” for a while.i just realized not too long ago that the body of christ is me and requires an action… not just sitting listening to a sermon…church happens outside of the building we meet in! ya know!? that is the exciting thing to me! we are here for others! not church people.. oh my goodness.. when i realized that church was not for church people it took a weight off my shoulders! anyways if you are still looking for a church…Canvas Church is where richard and i are right now, and we arent perfect either, but we are real! and we are growing…and we want to see this city transformed!! and we need the whole body of Christ to help!!! check out my blog! racheldurbin.wordpress.com!!!
prayin for ya in ur journey!!
rachel
Just wanted to say, your final realization may not make the journey “worth it,” but you seem to have made the right conclusion. When I moved away from home, I didn’t want to be a hypocrite so I quit going to church. I wanted to live “my way.” Finally, I came to realize, as a Christian, I was the ultimate hypocrite. I was a child of the King living as a slave to what I thought was fun. I can’t relate to all you suffered, but I wanted to explain that some things you are taught in Sunday school and some things you have to learn on your own. Unfortunately, time may be lost, but you may be able to use your experience to help someone else. To you, it’s not an experience you read (KJV style) that happened a long time ago.
Hang in there,
Scot